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Himalayan glaciers: there’s a mouse in the room

This blog is going to be a little bit different, because I need to let off steam about Himalayan glaciers, addressing myself mainly to readers, if any, who don’t believe in global warming.

Ben Santer is a climatologist who has done much more than most to advance our understanding of human influence on the climate. In his words from the IPCC’s Second Assessment, published in 1995, “The balance of evidence suggests a discernible human influence on climate.” Advances since 1995 are encapsulated in the words of the IPCC’s Fourth Assessment, published in 2007: “Most of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the mid-20th century is very likely due to the observed increase in anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations.”

In a press conference call last week, Santer asserted that it would be wrong to use the mouse to cast doubt on the elephant. He was reacting to recent excitement in the media about Himalayan glaciers. Himalayan glaciers are the mouse in the room. Denialists evidently have no interest in the fact that sustained dispassionate study of the Earth and its atmosphere shows unequivocally, as summarized in the IPCC’s periodical assessments, that there is also an elephant in the room.

Santer is absolutely right about both the elephant and the mouse. I, however, want to focus on the mouse.

I am the guy who found the typo. That is, I found the sources of the mistaken claim, made in the second volume (section 10.6.2) of the IPCC’s Fourth Assessment, that Himalayan glaciers are very likely to disappear by 2035 or perhaps sooner. I am also the guy who tipped off Fred Pearce, the author of the 1999 news story in New Scientist that is the de-facto source of the mistaken claim. Pearce’s story in last week’s New Scientist (16 January) is the spark that ignited the present firestorm threatening the IPCC in general and its chair, Dr Rajendra Pachauri, in particular. I am also the guy who, with three fellow glaciologists, wrote to Science describing the nature of the Himalayan errors.

Finally, I am a guy who like several thousand other scientists holds a tiny share of the 2007 Nobel Prize for Peace along with Dr Pachauri. That is, I contributed to the IPCC’s Fourth Assessment.

Rating the news stories on clarity and factual accuracy, the widespread media coverage of the Himalayan mistake has ranged from not very good to very good indeed. On the whole, except for some misattributions and for their addiction to sound bites, I have no substantial fault to find with the journalists. But many of the online news outlets invite comments from readers. With rare exceptions, those comments make unutterably dismal reading.

No scientist can fault members of the public for not being experts. On big questions that are also complicated, they have to trust somebody. Any failure of trust must be painful. But that does not excuse illogic, ignorance and failure to check facts.

The most illogical of the comments on Himalayan-glacier stories last week are those that take the part for the whole. Those commenters who dismiss the entire Fourth Assessment should read the part of it (section 4.5 of the first volume) to which I contributed. If they find anything wrong with it (which I doubt) they should let me know and I will try to fix it. Pachauri is dead right when he says that the Himalayan mistake was a collective failure. We could have fixed section 10.6.2 of the second volume, but failed to because the right mechanisms for making 3000 pages of text all consistent with one another were not in place. We have to do better next time.

Ignorance is unpardonable, or at least very risky, if you feel inclined to shoot your mouth off. Speech is free, but if you want to be taken seriously you need to know your stuff. One point on which many of the newspaper readers are ignorant has to do with money. I don’t know how many salaried persons work for IPCC. But none of the contributing authors are paid, up at least as high as the level of Chapter Lead Author. The unknown colleague who wrote the mistaken paragraph about Himalayan glaciers was not paid to do so. I got nothing for the couple of hundred hours I put in on my contribution to the Fourth Assessment, or for tracking down the typo. I do get a salary, but it is for being a university professor. Contributing to IPCC assessments is not what they pay me for.

Failure to check facts is a tough one for an IPCC contributor to tackle, given that we are talking about a failure of IPCC to check its facts. But the difference is that we have to take the consequences and the irresponsible commentator doesn’t.

If you write that the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide is “widely accepted as being about 350 parts per million”, and walk away, it doesn’t do much good for me to answer that it is known with high confidence to be between 385 and 390 parts per million (in 2009, on a global annual average). If you write that the hockey-stick graph “has been discredited”, you have a good chance of getting away with it, but that doesn’t stop it being a wrong fact. Every objection to the hockey-stick graph, and there have been some plausible ones, has been unpicked, found to have no scientific basis, and explained. If you write that “Latest sea level measurements from benchmark island shows sea level is dropping”, you need to be told, if you are still there, that that is rubbish. I don’t know what “benchmark island” means, but the current best estimate of the rate of sea-level rise, averaged over the world during 2003 to 2008, is +2.5 millimetres/yr, give or take 0.4 mm. (I suspect it might be on the low side, but that is another story.)

You may have noticed that there is nothing about Himalayan glaciers in the last paragraph. That is because there is nothing about Himalayan glaciers in the readers’ comments. Although they should be, they aren’t interested in Himalayan glaciers.

Probably the least excusable of the failings of the denialist commentators, however, is muddle-headedness. Many of the opinions they express are actually about the levying and spending of tax, and are opinions to which as taxpayers they are clearly entitled. But you need a clear head to grasp that opinions about tax are not a warrant for any opinion whatsoever about Himalayan glaciers or the findings (as opposed to the funding) of the IPCC.

Few as they are, the real facts about Himalayan glaciers are disturbing enough that there is no need, or justification of course, for exaggerating them. Allowing for undersampling, measurement uncertainty and all the other things that make scientific pronouncements fuzzy, Himalayan glaciers are indeed losing mass, and it is more likely than not that they are losing mass faster now than a few decades ago.

When you make a scientific pronouncement about the future, you add new dimensions of fuzziness. Still, it is easy to show on the back of an envelope that there is no chance at all of Himalayan glaciers being gone by 2035. There is no plausible scenario, even with plausible exaggeration of human interference with the climate, that would deliver the energy required to melt the Himalayan ice in the time available. But Himalayan ice is a non-renewable resource. The more of it we pour into the ocean, the less our stock of fresh water, the less our chance of keeping life bearable for the people of the Indian subcontinent, and the less our chance of keeping sea-level rise within reasonable bounds.

Your options as a denialist are limited. You can elect legislators who have accepted the IPCC’s findings and will use tax as an instrument for encouraging people to get to work more cheaply. Or you can allow them to use the law, making it an offence to drive to work. Or you can continue to refuse to accept the presence of the elephant in the room, seizing on mice as an excuse. Sooner or later the market will make driving to work too expensive for you, although that will be among the least of your worries. Pick the least unpalatable option.

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Comments (9)

  • 1 Nate January 25, 2010 9:03 PM

    You lost me at 'Denialist'. Thanks for being blatant with your bias.

  • 2 Casey Verdant January 25, 2010 11:47 PM

    Climate Chief Pachauri has ruined his reputation in the scientific community and the public-at-large by pushing the faulty Himalayan-glacier estimates. If the IPCC is to restore its reputation and become an effective advocate for climate change legislation, they need a new leader and more transparent research reporting mechanisms. Himalayagate cannot happen again.

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  • 3 Graham Cogley January 26, 2010 4:39 AM

    Nate: My bias is towards getting the facts right (with error bars on them).

    Casey Verdant: I am afraid I don't agree with your assessment of Pachauri. I bet he wishes he hadn't used the phrase "voodoo science", but apart from this tendency to shoot from the hip I reckon he has done a great job over the time since his initial surprise appointment. In the current controversy, once the glaciologists had his attention he caused IPCC to respond rapidly and appropriately.

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  • 4 Alastair McDonald January 26, 2010 11:24 PM

    I think that the benchmark island they are referring to is on The Isle of the Dead in Tasmania. It was made "famous" by John Daly who was rowed out to it by his wife, and armed only with a ruler and a watch proved that global sea level had not risen since 1841 when the benchmark was reputedly cut by James Clark Ross!

    His website, advertising his achievement, received such a following amongst the sceptics that the oceanography centre in Southampton investigated it. Although John Daly has since died, his website is still maintained, and his report on the investigation can be read here. It includes citations to the papers reporting the serious investigations.

    I cannot find the report of the Dalys' expedition, but it may still be on his site somewhere.

    It is just such a pity that we can't have such persuasive propagandists warning about the dangers of global warming rather than rubbishing them :-(

  • 5 Tom Scharf January 27, 2010 11:33 PM

    I'm a skeptic. I typically stop reading any post once the term deniers gets used. But I read the rest anyway, it was interesting. There is an undertone here that you regret doing this because it forwarded the "cause" of the skeptics, which it did.

    However, you know you did the right thing. I sense there is a lot of pressure on scientists in the field to not rock the boat, which could lead to unintended bias. It is clear to me that politics has infected the scientific process and that is not a good thing. I don't trust the process.

    I am convinced temperatures are rising steadily, I don't have faith in modeling results because they can't be effectively validated. AGW should continue to be closely studied.

    Broad brushing people as deniers only further polarizes them, and with AGW losing public support, it is not helping your cause.

    Keep up the good work. I mean it.


  • 6 Steve Carson January 28, 2010 1:08 AM

    Thanks for an interesting article with great personal and scientific perspective.

    I would echo some of the issues in earlier comments about the "denialists" etc. Of course, I'm sure it's very frustrating as a scientist to have so many with very little understanding question or rubbish all the important scientific hard work.

    I share some of my thoughts, not to criticize, but in the hope that they add something small to the people who write here and who read here. I'm not good at pithy, media-friendly sound-bites, so it's more like War & Peace, sorry about that..

    My own quest for knowledge has, so far, followed a journey which I think is similar to many others.

    First, the belief in the AGW consensus.
    Second, questions, doubts, from finding a small issue with the new consensus (in my case, the "hockey stick" and MWP).
    Third, being labelled a "denier" which is like accusing people of supporting the holocaust (and therefore should not be done lightly), for asking what seem like genuine questions.
    Fourth, reading more of "skeptic" blogs than "consensus" blogs because of finding everyone with questions and doubts is labelled a "denier" or "stupid".

    Now, in my own journey, fifth, as I continued to study the subject I believe there is a stronger case for AGW than originally I thought. (Footnote, of course CO2 adds a warming influence to the planet, my "skepticism" was/is re the reliability of climate models when the subject is so complex).

    I think most people who have followed a similar journey have not moved from point 4 to point 5. And I believe the reasons are complex, but I do see three themes:

    1. If you insult people's integrity it goes against every human instinct for them to properly assess your work, your science, your blog. (This goes both ways, of course, but let's focus on how more people might move to the "consensus"). Instead they will find a home elsewhere and become confirmed in these beliefs.

    2. For the scientists and "consensus" blog writers, having new visitors ask climate 101 questions or deny climate 101 points is very frustrating. "These points have been answered 100 times before!" But although some are beyond hope, many are people who are really seeking knowledge. You produced the TAR in 2001 and AR4 in 2007 and there are 1000 papers backing your point. But Fred Smith never studied physics, doesn't receive Geophysical Research Letters in the mail, and has just arrived after reading a skeptic blog for a year and this is the first time he has encountered someone from "the consensus". Previously, he only encountered "the consensus" through skeptic eyes and now he (or she) is asking his first mad question.
    Don't tell them they are idiots. Help them understand. Pretend they are the first to ask this question. 98% of the population have not studied physics to any level where they understood anything. 99.99% of the population do not understand radiative physics and haven't read an undergrad text book.

    Well I'm sure that many writers and consensus commentators are already doing this, I add my lengthy comments in the hope of creating a yet calmer debate.

    There was a third theme, the most challenging one. Many people following the journey I described do realize that CO2 is important and can add 3W/m^2 or more. This is fairly basic stuff after all, and not so difficult to demonstrate. Then we come to climate models and it is a big leap to access and understand the 100s of papers and what they mean.

    Surprisingly, many who have not worked in computer models understand that roughly fitting the past for one parameter for the last 100 years is necessary - but not sufficient - to prove the case that climate models can reliably chart the future course of the climate.

    For some keen unpaid overworked climate scientists to provide more help here for the seekers would be invaluable.

  • 7 Clif Carl January 28, 2010 8:09 PM

    I don't mind being called a critic. I read books critically. I watch movies critically. Using my economics background I look at DSGE models critically. And I find them wanting in some cases or in some applications. And not knowing much about climate models, that leads me to have doubts about your community's models.

    The United States Preventive Services Task Force, when it presented its mammography recommendations in November, found, to its chagrin, that how one presents one's results can sometimes be just as important as the results themselves. Regretably, some members of your community did not think that transparency was necessary or desirable for the policymakers. Oh - that's us, the people. So there we are, mushrooms stewing in the dark. Many others would like to put this on Jesse Ventura's new TV show, but I'd rather have my doubts addressed (and not be told to have faith).

    Deirdre McCloskey has repeatedly said that "fit is not the same thing as scientific importance; a merely statistical significance cannot substitute for the judgement of a scientist and her community about the largeness or smallness of a coefficient by standards of scientific or policy oomph." So I'm happy to see Mr. McIntyre et al. poking around and asking questions inside your community's models and whatnot. Maybe they can bring closure to this controversy, with or without the help of your community.

    Remember Darwin's Bulldog? Remember Scopes? Does this have to drag on?

  • 8 Clif Carl January 29, 2010 4:12 AM

    More on McCloskey - the political "fit"
    The not so trivial controversy over reinsurance and other skirmishes like it points toward the politization of risk recognition. McCloskey assersts that the impact of a measurement should be the reference for the fit of a statistic - something regular people already intuitively do. This calls into question the meaningfulness (I didn't say truthfulness) of “[m]ost of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the mid-20th century is very likely due to the observed increase in anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations.”

    The point is that posts like the National Wildlife Federation's Odd-Ball Winter Weather only serve move the political debate one way or the other. They do nothing to answer my doubts or bring the ACTUAL science to the public at large. I don't understand what's so hard about working under the spotlight. Especially when the consequences (either way) could be so large.

  • 9 Matt McIntyre January 29, 2010 5:52 PM

    It is a very serious blow that proper review procedures were not followed in the IPCC Assessment. With that in mind, the repeated misuse of Cogley's et al. article is bordering on hilarity based on the original intent it was composed. All they did was point out mistakes. Summing up AGW in a yes or no statement was clearly not the intent of their article. So I find it hard to see how it is being used as a reference in an arena of political bickering (I could provide a link to one of the many postings by the denial…I mean those who oppose AGW, but I think we have all filtered through those posts).

    Greater trust and attention should be given to those who spend their life in the pursuit of understanding such a complex subject. I give credit to those of us who follow the debate. Certainly our engagement in the discussion and the questions that we raise benefit the pursuit of understanding the matter. But being able to sum up all of the data and draw a conclusion should be left to those who have the ability to understand the processes involved. Political bickering should be left to the matter of how the problem should be addressed once identified by the likes of Graham Cogley.

    Thanks, and keep up the great work.

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